Cleon vs Swan

[The Furies']

Who do you think would win? I mean granted Cleon is the leader of the Warriors because he can fight, but I think Swans personality wouldn't allow him to "challenge" Cleon at any time........? Thoughts?

[snowball fury]

Swan would win. Although Cleon is smart Swan is a little bit smarter. I think Ceon knows this and that is why he tells Swan you stay close to me. He asks this so that he can ask Swan for advice.

[Snow]

Cleon would win. He can dish out some fast hits as you can see how he knocked out three rogues in a matter of seconds. Swan looked a little vulnerable against the punks.

[Swan]

that because they had weapons!!!

[The Fox]

Tough one to call. But, i'll go for Swan as you don't really see much of Cleon.

[BigMike7]

We didn't see much of Cleon, but the way gangs go, the top dog is in charge. Cleon is probably the best fighter although Swan is close behind.

[Rembrandt]

Swan would win as he is the better fighter in my opinion!

[Spike]

Cleaon was the leader - he was the stronget, so rtest respect him. He would win

[skt4477]

Swan would win because he fought the Baseball Furies and the gang in the bathroom and he survived. Cleon didn't last past his scuffle with the Grammercy Riffs. They overpowered him. I assumed the Riffs killed him in the scuffle. Anyway, that's my opinion.

However, Swan's personality would not make him start a fight with Cleon. He played peace maker with his gang, even when A-Jax challenged him to a fight.

[GonzoNYC]

Swan was a peacemaker of a sort but not when he was challenged by Ajax. He actually challenged Ajax to "make his move" and it was up to the other Warriors in that spot to play peacemakers.

[wonderwheel]

Tough call, I do not think that the "best" fighter is often the leader. A leadership role takes on more than an ability to fight -although as a gang member it is an important quality to have. Personally I think Ajax was the best fighter, the toughest in the group, but no one wanted him to be the war chief for obvious reasons. Both Cleon and Swan had qualities about them that would probably have avoided a confontation, each knew his role. But if it ever DID happen, I would not know which of the two would win.

adios,

[Spike]

Ajax was the strongest, but not ti smart. He never would take over the leadership in normal circumstances. In the other head, Swan would...
Cleaon make Swan a War Chief, because he was konwn, thak he can't beat him.
That just my thougts...

[Spike]

... because he knew...
sorry for that hehehe

[wonderwheel]

Ajax wanted to be the war chief, as was expressed by the confontation between he and Swan in the graveyard. The other members, knowing the consequences of what could have happened if Ajax became the leader, persuaded him not to. I don't know if Swan could or could not beat Cleon, but for the most part, I think Cleon chose Swan to be the heir apparent for the latters decision-making skills, and coolness under pressure. Swan knew his role as the understudy to Cleon.

adios,

[UKswan]

you have to go with cleon as leader, in the opening scenes he seemed to have better control of ajax than swan. i liked his fighting style before he got wasted too.