if fox saw luthur shoot cyrus, y didnt he say anything to th

[Warloard18]

i think it was because he either figured they knew or because he was so shocked about his discovery, or mostlikley he forgot because of all the running and bopping going on.

[keller]

yah he did have alot more pressing issues at that point in time like surviving long enough to get home

[haterist]

if that were the case, it would've been one short movie no?  :p 

like with every movie thats ever been made, theres always the question of why this or that? i.e. "why didn't the guy just run away from the monster?"  "why didn't woody go straight to the police?"  "what an idiot, if it were me, i would've....".   

no movie really makes sense, especially to the people who are watching it.  but you gotta have people doing stupid/ridiculous/nonsensical things, otherwise there would be no movie.  i can't think of a single movie that didn't leave me asking, "why didn't *insert anything stupid here*.     

[keller]

and what would they have done with the information anyway it's not as though they could walk up to any of the gangs and try to explain the situation he might have told them thus Swan's knowing that Luther pulled the trigger

[BullDog]

He had a more important issue at hand. getting home ASAP.  He probolly knew he could tell everyone, but he didnt want people to get off the topic of getting home. Cyrus is dead and can wait. the warriors are alive and need to get home. Cyrus will be delt with then.

[vancourtlandranger]

Fox must've told the other warriors or how else would've Swan know that it was Luther who shot cyrus. It was Rembrandt who told them that they were the main suspects after their run in with the lizzies but other than that, they thought the truce had been called off and all gangs were protecting their turf again.

[Ranchgal]

He didn't tell them because at the time, it didn't matter, The Warriors didn't find out they were being blamed till Fox was gone, so the opportunity passed.
And they really didn't have much knowledge of Cyrus, or that his murder would affect them.

Swan knew because Luther came onto the Warriors turf, and sought them out for NO real reason, so he knew they were being set up, and the only reason Luther would be interested in bringing the fight to them is if he were guilty, and trying to keep them quiet.
It was obvious by that time, since he knew the Warriors didn't---the only way to keep the Riffs believing it wasn't Luther, was to get rid of the Warriors so Luther could say whatever he wanted to about it.

[Real Warrior NYC]

Fox must've told the other warriors or how else would've Swan know that it was Luther who shot cyrus. It was Rembrandt who told them that they were the main suspects after their run in with the lizzies but other than that, they thought the truce had been called off and all gangs were protecting their turf again.

You're absolutely right, however it would have made sense to include a scene in the movie where Fox tells the remaining Warriors that he saw who shot Cyrus. 

[emissary]

Fox must've told the other warriors or how else would've Swan know that it was Luther who shot cyrus. It was Rembrandt who told them that they were the main suspects after their run in with the lizzies but other than that, they thought the truce had been called off and all gangs were protecting their turf again.

You're absolutely right, however it would have made sense to include a scene in the movie where Fox tells the remaining Warriors that he saw who shot Cyrus. 

Well, they went in with a plan that got blown to bits and they had to improvise.  We may have been given a scene showing Fox tell the tale if Thomas Waites had stayed.  But if that happened, we might not be here now. 

[BaseballFury100]

well fox lived around half the movie, he could have said somthing on the train!
orrr he could have said somthing not in the movie that wasn't important, like the guy who shot him had long hair or somthing

[vancourtlandranger]

He prob told them after they got on the train after running into the "AC's". Sorry but I don't agree with the post about Swan guessing it was Luther, as at that point they knew that every gang was still after them. They would've talked about it at some point. Fox would've told his gang members "I saw who shot Cyrus and nearly got shot myself". He may have know of the "Rouges" anyway as he knew who the orphans were and they lived right up in the bronx and weren't a major gang either. And Snow knew The "AC's" so maybe they had knowledge of many of the gangs. Thast just my thought

[War Chief]

My guess is that Fox didn't even know who Luther was so he wasn't going to say - "I saw Luther shoot Cyrus". Luther was just another face in the crowd to Fox. Even if Fox did say to the other Warriors "I saw who shot Cyrus", it isn't important to the story as as Ranchgal points out, they didn't know they were accused of shooting Cyrus until they met The Lizzies. I'd also like to mention whilst I'm here, that Fox didn't mention it to The Riffs at the time because:

(a) - he probably wasn't the only person to see Luther shoot Cyrus.
(b) - he had to run to avoid being shot.
(c) - he had to run to avoid being caught by the cops and by other gangs and to find the rest of his gang.

Fox would have been beaten up like Cleon if he had gone back, as they took Luther's word over Cleon's.

Does this mean that The Rogues were more trustworthy and believable to The Riffs, than The Warriors? Interesting.

[vancourtlandranger]

Well thats another good angle. I didn't say though, that he would've mentioned "Luther" by name i just said he may have know of the "Rogues" as he had info on some of the other gangs they came across. Of course they didn't know that they were the suspects of cyrus's shooting until they met up with the Lizzies but I can't see how Swan would've know that Luther was the killer just because he turned up on their turf. I do agree though that he was aware that they "Rogues" had come to silence them by then . Luther must've have thought Fox had told the other members as he wouldn't have wanted to kill them-at least he agrees with me LOL!

[Grits]

Did Fox tell Swan?  I don't think so.  The theory here is that Fox told him at some point, or told some of the other guys?  No mention is ever made.  They're always talking only about the cops out to bust them and the truce being dead. 

The bottom line is that the script is on this website and if you read it, and correct me if I'm wrong, it does state that Fox witnesses the shooting but there is no moment where he communciates this to Swan.

That's the bottom line, unless one of the editors mentions footage they shot, but one is also interviewed on this site and he decribes a great deal of extra footage, but no Fox telling Swan.

Hey, this is my first post.  It's great to be here.  I was on an IGN Warriors Game website that SUCKED.  You people are real Warriors fans like myself.  It came out when I was 9 and this movie was holy to us growing up, one of those "Duel" or Planet of the Apes-type movies that we watched every time it came on.

The game is AWESOME, BTW.

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[ajaxman]

He didn't tell them because at the time, it didn't matter, The Warriors didn't find out they were being blamed till Fox was gone, so the opportunity passed.
And they really didn't have much knowledge of Cyrus, or that his murder would affect them.

Swan knew because Luther came onto the Warriors turf, and sought them out for NO real reason, so he knew they were being set up, and the only reason Luther would be interested in bringing the fight to them is if he were guilty, and trying to keep them quiet.
It was obvious by that time, since he knew the Warriors didn't---the only way to keep the Riffs believing it wasn't Luther, was to get rid of the Warriors so Luther could say whatever he wanted to about it.

 

I have to disagree Ranchgal. (What's new right. ) I think Fox did tell the Warriors and it just wasn't filmed. I mean they were on that train together for at least a few minutes before stopped by the fire, and again they road the train and sat there until the cops busted it up. In all that time of inactivity one just has to assume that Fox told the others what he saw. It was too important not to tell. He wasn't around for the finger pointing by Luther and so didn't know that part of what happened. Swan's a smart guy but to think he knew it was Luther because Luther was on their turf to me wouldn't be enough of a factor to lead Swan to believe that Luther pulled the trigger. I mean the Riffs invaded the Warriors turf and no one thought they killed Cyrus.
Them invading Warriors turf, if I had no other information, other than knowing that the gangs think we killed the leader of the biggest gang in the city, would only have me think they invaded to get ahold of us and get in good with the riffs. I mean Rembrandt found out everyone thought they shot Cyrus but didn't show him telling Swan, Snow, or Cowboy. Are we to assume he didn't because it wasn't shown. No. So why assume Fox didn't tell them what he knew somewhere on the train and it just wasn't filmed.