ajax not that stupid!!

thediceman · Post by **thediceman** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:41 pm

swift eyed wolf wrote: yep, im not really going to ask him to be a godfather...that was a bit of my humour and like for ajax...it was not intended to be serious nor a way to make this a 'i love ajax' thread...just a bit of fun.

(its not that formal diceman) you should realise that from my name. (my family name isnt 'eyed wolf' with me being christened 'swift'.

Thank you for clarifying that point because I really did think you had intended to ask Ajax, & not James Remar because we all know he's a make believe actor, to be a godfather.

And I really thought that was your real name.

p.s. My real name is Jade Goody

swift eyed wolf · Post by **swift eyed wolf** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:21 pm

thanks for you reply diceman. hope no one who has said anything that supports me, or myself, has hit a nerve.

still though, your comments just dont fit...they dont disprove mine at all.

ajax knowing the importance of getting into the graveyard can easily be an interpretation of him fronting the busting through the fence. yes, he is strongest so what you said is true. but my point is not disproven from that.

your mention of cleon was about trying to state that he set them off in one direction and they just went that way cos he said so...well my point is that it didn't necessarily and they didnt all follow his instructions as the frontrunners were to far away to here him. you cant disprove that ajax may have on his own accord led them to the graveyard.

him running when he should and being right about fighting the furies can also not be disproven.

so you just are not disproving the points i made...your saying other things that are sometimes true but that dont disprove my points and stating opinions that could be true...but could not be.

i dont think in any way that my posts are babyish. a babyish post is one that is 2 or 3 lines that says something like 'lets start up our own gang'. or 'ohhh i love the warriors' with nothing more. (except for a newbie's 1st).

actually, some of the big boys tell me i have good posts in pm's...and i do mean the top dogs.

i always try and start new topics off that are a bit different or put my opinions and passion in! nope...if i were babyish then i wouldn't be patiently and maturley re-explaining things to you about the posts.

swift eyed wolf · Post by **swift eyed wolf** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:23 pm

ok, no sweat fox. sorry mate. just responding, didn't think id have to justify myself this much.

well done on the 100 posts diceman

!

thediceman · Post by **thediceman** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:50 pm

You propose an idea with your opinions, I address it with facts based on what can be seen on the film and your counter agruement is one of what's if's and I don't see it that way such as "easily be an interpretation" and "it didn't necessarily".

Your interpretation of events is merely your opinion and therefore as evidence that Ajax is smart is subjective not obejective. I do believe that's what I am trying to highlight but it appears you can not look beyond the subjective.

Shame I never get any positive pm's from the top dogs, lmao, but then again I've never been one to play to the crowd or concerned how others view me.

ps one man's comedy genius is another man's, oh my god wft, etc, etc

pps fox, we are merely debating differing views, is that not the purpose of a forum. People don't have to be part of the thread if it is of no interest to them. I think there are a lot more concerns about posting other than two people debating differing views. What about the people who make posts re: glorifing their own personal acts of violence or screaming for censorship against posts that do not meet there own political rightwingness. Maybe this best to this continue that discussion in the pm's.

pps I'd love to know who the republicians are that don't believe in frreedom of speech, and go screaming to the mod's for censorship, please feel free to pm me.

ppps SEW thanks for noting my 100th post. I'm not one to make a fuse and start a thread about such an event

thediceman · Post by **thediceman** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:02 pm

swift eyed wolf wrote:you cant disprove that ajax may have on his own accord led them to the graveyard.

Fact, when Ajax broke though the fence he exited first but then ushered the other Warriors though and was the last person to lead the area yet you state I can't disprove Ajax "may have on his own accord led them to the graveyard."

It's really not that difficult to disprove something when it didn't happen

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prozium · Post by **prozium** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:35 pm

I don't see what the big deal is about Ajax. Granted he has some nice lines but to me he's every other homophobic brute out there. Sure he's a good fighter but I just don't care much about his character at all. When he got busted I felt he deserved it.

He's clearly not the smartest of the bunch, not sure if I'd use the word stupid but he really needs to prioritize when they're in enemy gang territory and NOT try to take Swans position as warlord JUST AFTER that Cleon has been killed and NOT molest women while being in said situation and location.

LizzyBorden · Post by **LizzyBorden** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:30 pm

Ajax would of done some serious jail time.

1] He struck two NYC police officers.
2] He sexually assaulted a NYC police officer. It was police entrapment.
3] He resisted arrest.
4] He would of been tried as an adult, defended by a court appointed dip shit lawyer.
5] He was a member of a illegal street gang.
6] He would be charged with whatever NYC police could think of or make up, for that matter.
7] He would get the maximum sentences.
8] The Judge would throw the book at him, make an example of him.

On top of that, he would probably of been in the same holding cell with alot of other gang members who were rounded up at the meeting. Ajax would be greatly out numbered and no matter how tough he was, could of ended up dead and probably would have. The NYC police probably would of beat him up for what he did, " throw this slim in the back seat"...kinda gives you a clue.

Cochise · Post by **Cochise** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:40 pm

What's making everyone say that the other gang members are going to suddenly ally for the express purpose of killing Ajax? If they were to do any fighting at all, it would have been with each other, Ajax just another individual. It isn't like they were waiting for him to get arrested. If there was mass fighting in the jail cells, a ton of people would be dead, the police wouldn't be able to control them. If they were to fight there, why didn't they just fight the cops at the meeting? Or on the buses?

Ugh...I'm not sure how to get my thoughts exactly into words here...

ohs · Post by **ohs** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:47 pm

I like to think that Ajax somehow escaped on the way back to the police station...how I dont know, but I just know hed think of something

StevenFallonNYC · Post by **StevenFallonNYC** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:17 am

Ajax to me definitely isn't stupid, but when there's chicks around, he seems to get stupid. It's obvious what his weakness is! Like when he is with the cop in the park - first of all, any woman who is sitting on a park bench alone doing nothing in the middle of the night in NYC (especially in the crime-ridden 70's NYC) is either retarded, or a cop looking for a bust. The "duuh" look Ajax has on his face when she is speaking to him is priceless. And what lines she has - "You wanna show me how you play with the chicks?" No red flag there??

Imagine Ajax with the Lizzies! "It's cool guys these look like honest chicks!"

Other posters here pointed out examples of how Ajax isn't dumb, and I agree all the way. I especially like how he makes sure the others get in the subway door after the Orphans encounter. So really, Ajax definitely isn't dumb IMO, he just loses his brains when there's chicks around. He definitely doesn't think correctly when some wool is around.

Post by **SoldierHeavyMuscle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:28 pm

man, (ow!) i gotta get back (ow) in this!!!! (OWWWW!!!)
LOLOL
(and i thought i typed slow, with 2 hand's!!)

LizzyBorden · Post by **LizzyBorden** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:45 pm

Cochise wrote:What's making everyone say that the other gang members are going to suddenly ally for the express purpose of killing Ajax? If they were to do any fighting at all, it would have been with each other, Ajax just another individual. It isn't like they were waiting for him to get arrested. If there was mass fighting in the jail cells, a ton of people would be dead, the police wouldn't be able to control them. If they were to fight there, why didn't they just fight the cops at the meeting? Or on the buses?

Ugh...I'm not sure how to get my thoughts exactly into words here...

The Riff's had alot of pull...they could of gotten word to the Police Staion about the Warriors shooting Cyrus...also alot of the gang members looked like they were out past curfew...even the Turnbull's ran...

Post by **GonzoNYC** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:05 pm

soldierheavymuscle wrote:man, (ow!) i gotta get back (ow) in this!!!! (OWWWW!!!)
LOLOL
(and i thought i typed slow, with 2 hand's!!)

Hey SHM, I can see you trying to wake up your wife at 8:00am this Sunday morning..."Hey wake up..gotta go check the forum, c'mon wake up..." She might roll over and give you the Ajax salute!

Get back soon, man. Not the same without you!

Post by **SoldierHeavyMuscle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:31 pm

GonzoNYC wrote:
soldierheavymuscle wrote:man, (ow!) i gotta get back (ow) in this!!!! (OWWWW!!!)
LOLOL
(and i thought i typed slow, with 2 hand's!!)
Hey SHM, I can see you trying to wake up your wife at 8:00am this Sunday morning..."Hey wake up..gotta go check the forum, c'mon wake up..." She might roll over and give you the Ajax salute! Get back soon, man. Not the same without you!

LOLOLOLOL

yeah, that's pretty much the way it went!!
and i will most definately be getting back in on this, gonz!!!

when i have the energy to type EVERYTHING i wanna say!! (or as much as those damn republican's will let me!!) and i'm not sure, but isn't it those damn repulican's who start all those war's that everybody bitches about, that have made freedom of speech, possible?

swift eyed wolf · Post by **swift eyed wolf** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:02 pm

Ajax to me definitely isn't stupid, but when there's chicks around, he seems to get stupid. It's obvious what his weakness is! Like when he is with the cop in the park - first of all, any woman who is sitting on a park bench alone doing nothing in the middle of the night in NYC (especially in the crime-ridden 70's NYC) is either retarded, or a cop looking for a bust. The "duuh" look Ajax has on his face when she is speaking to him is priceless. And what lines she has - "You wanna show me how you play with the chicks?" No red flag there??

Imagine Ajax with the Lizzies! "It's cool guys these look like honest chicks!"

Other posters here pointed out examples of how Ajax isn't dumb, and I agree all the way. I especially like how he makes sure the others get in the subway door after the Orphans encounter. So really, Ajax definitely isn't dumb IMO, he just loses his brains when there's chicks around. He definitely doesn't think correctly when some wool is around.

roger all of that...basically everything he agrees with is what my original post was saying. even about the wool...i know thats a stupid move really.

good to see you gradually getting back shm!

laters everyone.

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