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Fox was originally meant to be one of the main characters. He wasn't Warchief in the original script, but he did survive, and it was him rather than Swan who got off with Mercy. We also learned his real name, Francis Conroy.thurman_furies_elite wrote: I was reading the original script and instead of swan vermin snow cowboy cochise and rem survived it was swan rem cowboy vermin and snow but fox was the one giving orders from when swan was captured by the dingos and cochise was killed by the furies and dumped in the river can someone help me out? thanks in advance boppers
If Vermin were to die I would not have wanted it to be with the Lizzies. A noble way seems more like Vermin. Like taking the gunshot in front of Swan, instead of Swan throwing his knife in Luther's arm. Or I could see him getting a bunch of Punks off of Mercy in the subway station bathroom, and getting stomped to death. Either way, I see him as a noble type.eliminator1 wrote:Fox was originally meant to be one of the main characters. He wasn't Warchief in the original script, but he did survive, and it was him rather than Swan who got off with Mercy. We also learned his real name, Francis Conroy.thurman_furies_elite wrote: I was reading the original script and instead of swan vermin snow cowboy cochise and rem survived it was swan rem cowboy vermin and snow but fox was the one giving orders from when swan was captured by the dingos and cochise was killed by the furies and dumped in the river can someone help me out? thanks in advance boppers
In the DVD, Walter Hill says this was changed because they felt that Tom Waites (Fox) and Deborah Van Valkenburg (Mercy) had zero chemistry, but that there was an unscripted chemistry between Deborah and Michael Beck (Swan), so it was changed. This could be what made Waites walk out of filming, I'd be annoyed too if my part was cut like this.
Vermin was also killed in the original script, shot dead by the Lizzies.
If you read the original script, Vermin wasn't as likeable as the Vermin we know and love, he was still whiny, but seemed like more of a jerk. The change in his character, and having him lighten up the mood could be what kept him alive for the final film.Jigsaw wrote:If Vermin were to die I would not have wanted it to be with the Lizzies. A noble way seems more like Vermin. Like taking the gunshot in front of Swan, instead of Swan throwing his knife in Luther's arm. Or I could see him getting a bunch of Punks off of Mercy in the subway station bathroom, and getting stomped to death. Either way, I see him as a noble type.eliminator1 wrote:Fox was originally meant to be one of the main characters. He wasn't Warchief in the original script, but he did survive, and it was him rather than Swan who got off with Mercy. We also learned his real name, Francis Conroy.thurman_furies_elite wrote: I was reading the original script and instead of swan vermin snow cowboy cochise and rem survived it was swan rem cowboy vermin and snow but fox was the one giving orders from when swan was captured by the dingos and cochise was killed by the furies and dumped in the river can someone help me out? thanks in advance boppers
In the DVD, Walter Hill says this was changed because they felt that Tom Waites (Fox) and Deborah Van Valkenburg (Mercy) had zero chemistry, but that there was an unscripted chemistry between Deborah and Michael Beck (Swan), so it was changed. This could be what made Waites walk out of filming, I'd be annoyed too if my part was cut like this.
Vermin was also killed in the original script, shot dead by the Lizzies.
Up-to the point he gets thrown under the train he's is just about the main character along with Swan.eliminator1 wrote:Fox was originally meant to be one of the main characters. He wasn't Warchief in the original script, but he did survive, and it was him rather than Swan who got off with Mercy. We also learned his real name, Francis Conroy.thurman_furies_elite wrote: I was reading the original script and instead of swan vermin snow cowboy cochise and rem survived it was swan rem cowboy vermin and snow but fox was the one giving orders from when swan was captured by the dingos and cochise was killed by the furies and dumped in the river can someone help me out? thanks in advance boppers
In the DVD, Walter Hill says this was changed because they felt that Tom Waites (Fox) and Deborah Van Valkenburg (Mercy) had zero chemistry, but that there was an unscripted chemistry between Deborah and Michael Beck (Swan), so it was changed. This could be what made Waites walk out of filming, I'd be annoyed too if my part was cut like this.
Vermin was also killed in the original script, shot dead by the Lizzies.
damn i never knew any of that. thats rad.thurman_furies_elite wrote: I was reading the original script and instead of swan vermin snow cowboy cochise and rem survived it was swan rem cowboy vermin and snow but fox was the one giving orders from when swan was captured by the dingos and cochise was killed by the furies and dumped in the river can someone help me out? thanks in advance boppers
