the punk movement

[BTW A.K.A the killer household appliance]

this is a thread where people can discuss the british punk movement (1976-1980, i'd say 1980 it wasnt the same without the pistols) and american punk as well as some from other countries (aussie's the saints and irish band the radiators from space).

now for a question, which do you prefer, the british or american punk movements?
for me i would have to say that although the ramones were the first real punk band, british punk made it dangerous, because in case you didnt know sex pistols concerts were very violent, sid vicious would gob on the audience provoking them, he would literally get kicked the crap out of, one incident involved sid hitting some sort of american spectator with a bass. heh, punk is my fav type of music, i guess i try and be an expert lol.

here are some pics of punk
sid vicoius


the damned

the ramones

slaughter and the dogs

the clash

oh and for you greenday fans, this is where it all began, the stiff little fingers

buzzcocks

east bay ray of the dead kennedys

johnny thunders of the NY dolls and heartbreakers

darby crash of the germs

gaye advert of the adverts *dribbles* the first punk bassist


oh and by the way, i would appreciate it if no one talked about greenday here, i do not class them as neither a good band nor punk.

[GonzoNYC]

I would hate to say I prefer one over the other but if it comes down to it I would have to say the Brits.  Sid was a train wreck and like all wrecks...fascinating to watch.  Sid would also cut himself very frequently.  No doubt the inspiration for Richey James Edwards of Manic Street Preachers to carve "4Life" into his forearm.

Off topic Mojo recently had a CD with the mag of Sex Pistols influences...it is very good.

[turnbull_badger]

i prefer the british punk movement and thats not just because i'm british, the sex pistols were one of the greatest punk bands EVER!

[Rush2112]

Wayne Barrett huh... That name sounds familiar... :-k

[back2coney]

Respect, I'm as British as they come and I love this movement, very heavy.....punk meant metal, thrash, rock it was hard and you gotta love it.
Did American punk come from grunge.... or were there some bands back in the day?

[Lion]

Any good original 'ol punk band is good in my list. Just get rid of the new bands who are trying to be punk or grunge!!!

[BTW A.K.A the killer household appliance]

Any good original 'ol punk band is good in my list. Just get rid of the new bands who are trying to be punk or grunge!!!

i hear ya LIONS i just hate wannabes (thats why i quit my band!! lol)

here's another question for ya, the hottest punk babe!!

[stormtrooperoflove]

I got into Punk back around 77-78 when i was 12,and I can agree with you 100%that the British made punk what it was,no disrespect to New york,but while they may have inspired the Brits,the brits took it way further then new york ever did,all the New york bands looked and sounded different,were in their late 20s,and none of them were putting down the 60s hippie generation,the Brits were all late teens,early twenties,with a similar look,sound,and style and they were definitely letting the old guard to step aside and piss off,people saw them as a threat as some kind of new youth cult LOL it was great while it lasted! 
the L.A. punk scene ,which gave birth to hardcore,was very kickass as well,The Germs,FEAR,Black Flag,X,the circle jerks,the screamers etc,etc...good stuff!

[JD]

This is a real catch 22 for me , i have massive respect for both British and American scenes. I'm more a fan of the British sound ,but the Ramones are very important to me .

As for making the music more dangerous i can agree that the Pistols pushed it to the maximum but, lets not for get about the New York Dolls and Iggy & The Stooges .

If you look back Iggy was pretty raw on stage and off , he was cutting himself and gobbing on crowds long before Sid (although Iggy and The Stooges were just the begining of "Punk") .The New York Dolls were mean and nasty lunatic drug addicts that played no BS rock.

As for the sound, the Pistols were far more extreme and angry and set the pace for the true sound of punk rock for sure.

Man i could keep on going for days but i'm sure if some one wanted to read a novel about it they'd buy a proper book

Good thread!

[Cowboy606]

im gonna have to stay with the new york scene for many reasons, the main one being The Velvet Underground, the band that many claim (of course no one can be sure) was one of the first punk acts the world has ever seen. then there are of course the great american punk bands such as the virus, black flag, new york dolls, fear, us bombs, social distortion (punk 'n' roll) and so on. but i would like to make one thing clear that many of you might disagree with me on, and that is that america gave birth to one of the worst "punk" bands in history, and that band is the casualties.