My opinions on the comic (Note: spoilers, but not of anything not in the movie)
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:16 pm
I'm trying to be more participatory on here recently, seeing as how I'm the most active moderator but I rarely participate in discussions. Having read the comic, I decided that posting a little review of it might be a good way to start. This will probably make some people mad, but what the hell. Also, don't read this if you haven't read the comic, as there are some minor spoilers as to how things are positioned in the comic.
I'm going to have to be the wet blanket of the forum: I was unimpressed by the first issue. That doesn't mean all the rest will be bad (nor does it even mean the first one is bad either), but I have valid reasons for being unimpressed, so hear me out.
For one, I thought it moved waaaaaaaaaay too fast. Like, I honestly felt like someone opened the first twenty minutes of the movie in Windows Media Player and rapidly clicked through it, covering the whole time period in under five minutes and only allowing a few seconds of watching each time they stopped to examine a part. For example, take a look at the end of the comic. The Warriors go from talking about getting japped on an open platform to looking at the Turnbulls turning around to looking up at the train coming in to hauling ass from the aforementioned Turnbulls... all in four panels. It was like I was watching the movie on fast forward or something.
It's the same thing with the opening, which mimics the movie's. There's barely any explanation or anything, just two pages of rapid fire scenes of the Warriors talking to each other while waiting for the train. It works in the movie because it goes slower. You have to wait a few seconds for them to speak, and you get the emotions behind what they're saying. In comic form, it just reads like a slide show on crack. Then boom, you're at the conclave, we get one establishing shot, and suddenly Cyrus is talking. You see what I mean? I feel the progression through the story should have been slowed somewhat, because it just seems like they tried to cram in too much into one issue. I think they should have had the first issue begin before the movie, transitioning into it at the very end. That way they could end the issue on the eve of the conclave, as everyone is getting ready to go, and have this be the next issue.
That leads into my other problem: this comic was made exclusively for us fans. If someone who has never seen the movie picked this up in a comic store, they'd be pretty confused by what's going on. Things just go so quick, and there's barely any intro to who the characters are (you lose a lot of the voice and sense of emotion in the transition to page, so it's not like in the movie where you can look at Cochise and think "Strong silent type" right away), that I could see someone who has never seen the movie being left behind. I'm only concerned about this because, if only fans get the comic, it might cease production due to low sales.
I'll say that I really like the art style, even though it makes some of the characters look kinda weird. It's very dark and gritty, the exact kind of tone the movie had, but on paper instead. They're also following the movie's story faithfully, and I haven't seen any influence from the game yet, which is good. While I liked the game and some of the story, there were just too many contradictions with the movie for me to warrant thinking it should be part of the comic. Maybe some of the issues that take place outside the movie's story should draw from the game a little, but the storyline of the movie itself should stay intact. This doesn't preclude minor modifications or any kind of addition (Snow and Cowboy's journey to Union Square, anyone?), but I'm just saying that having the Warriors fighting through the Turnbulls' hangout is kinda stupid, or having Sully recognize Swan from "that raid a few months back".
That's about all I have to say. Feel free to agree or disagree with me. Special emphasis on disagree: I don't want anyone holding back at all because I'm a moderator. I'd never punish anyone for a personal opinion alone, and I hope I've made that clear to at least longtime members via my previous activities on here. I know a lot of mods on other sites who will ban you for simply disagreeing with them, and I try my hardest not to be like that. Now if anyone drifts into the realm of personal attacks or starts getting out of hand, that's when I'm going to start nailing people. I don't want any rabid fanboys coming in here with "OMG U SUCK TEH WARRORZ IZ AWSOM [bad word deleted] [bad word deleted] [bad word deleted] UR MOM FAT", cause that's just dumb. Anyway, I've said my piece, feel free to say yours.
I'm going to have to be the wet blanket of the forum: I was unimpressed by the first issue. That doesn't mean all the rest will be bad (nor does it even mean the first one is bad either), but I have valid reasons for being unimpressed, so hear me out.
For one, I thought it moved waaaaaaaaaay too fast. Like, I honestly felt like someone opened the first twenty minutes of the movie in Windows Media Player and rapidly clicked through it, covering the whole time period in under five minutes and only allowing a few seconds of watching each time they stopped to examine a part. For example, take a look at the end of the comic. The Warriors go from talking about getting japped on an open platform to looking at the Turnbulls turning around to looking up at the train coming in to hauling ass from the aforementioned Turnbulls... all in four panels. It was like I was watching the movie on fast forward or something.
It's the same thing with the opening, which mimics the movie's. There's barely any explanation or anything, just two pages of rapid fire scenes of the Warriors talking to each other while waiting for the train. It works in the movie because it goes slower. You have to wait a few seconds for them to speak, and you get the emotions behind what they're saying. In comic form, it just reads like a slide show on crack. Then boom, you're at the conclave, we get one establishing shot, and suddenly Cyrus is talking. You see what I mean? I feel the progression through the story should have been slowed somewhat, because it just seems like they tried to cram in too much into one issue. I think they should have had the first issue begin before the movie, transitioning into it at the very end. That way they could end the issue on the eve of the conclave, as everyone is getting ready to go, and have this be the next issue.
That leads into my other problem: this comic was made exclusively for us fans. If someone who has never seen the movie picked this up in a comic store, they'd be pretty confused by what's going on. Things just go so quick, and there's barely any intro to who the characters are (you lose a lot of the voice and sense of emotion in the transition to page, so it's not like in the movie where you can look at Cochise and think "Strong silent type" right away), that I could see someone who has never seen the movie being left behind. I'm only concerned about this because, if only fans get the comic, it might cease production due to low sales.
I'll say that I really like the art style, even though it makes some of the characters look kinda weird. It's very dark and gritty, the exact kind of tone the movie had, but on paper instead. They're also following the movie's story faithfully, and I haven't seen any influence from the game yet, which is good. While I liked the game and some of the story, there were just too many contradictions with the movie for me to warrant thinking it should be part of the comic. Maybe some of the issues that take place outside the movie's story should draw from the game a little, but the storyline of the movie itself should stay intact. This doesn't preclude minor modifications or any kind of addition (Snow and Cowboy's journey to Union Square, anyone?), but I'm just saying that having the Warriors fighting through the Turnbulls' hangout is kinda stupid, or having Sully recognize Swan from "that raid a few months back".
That's about all I have to say. Feel free to agree or disagree with me. Special emphasis on disagree: I don't want anyone holding back at all because I'm a moderator. I'd never punish anyone for a personal opinion alone, and I hope I've made that clear to at least longtime members via my previous activities on here. I know a lot of mods on other sites who will ban you for simply disagreeing with them, and I try my hardest not to be like that. Now if anyone drifts into the realm of personal attacks or starts getting out of hand, that's when I'm going to start nailing people. I don't want any rabid fanboys coming in here with "OMG U SUCK TEH WARRORZ IZ AWSOM [bad word deleted] [bad word deleted] [bad word deleted] UR MOM FAT", cause that's just dumb. Anyway, I've said my piece, feel free to say yours.