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(Trying really hard not to scream...) OH MYY GOOOOOOOOOOD...
Ok...Hmmm, I used to work in a projection room and I kept some frames of the movies I liked, did you, by any chance have this hmmm habit? If YES, hmmm, is Warriors included in your collection? 'cause that would be pretty cool to me :D
one more thing... Are you happy with the news about the remake?
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Damn, I can't imagine how cool it must be to see your name on the big screen in Warrior spraypaint, right before the Boppers appear. That was a great job of editing, telling large amounts of story very quickly and synching it up perfectly to the music.

Just curious if you or anyone else involved had any inkling what a cult phenom the movie would become.
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this is unbelievably awsome so many questions lol :roll: :shock: :D its great to have you here im freeking out,so can you shed some light on one of the most asked questions around here.....who was luther meant to be talking too over the phone??????,so many more to ask but ohwell thanks for your time its an honour
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Thank you for your time on this forum. I only have one question(not really)
but did you have any runs with the HOmicides in Coney Island? Thank you for your time.
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quick note. question was, "was stuff on the cutting room floor?"
Okay, first an editor puts together the movie. French for editing is "montage," which means building. So before you get to edit "out" any material, first you have to put it all together to make it sing. That's the first part of the editor's art, maybe the hardest, because the initial putting together of scenes is done alone. No two editors will come up with the same exact cut. Part two of editing is finding the throughline. (Here, for the 1st time, material gets dropped. Not to the editing room floor but into "lifts," maybe to be put back into the movie later). Think of all the flicks where you're confused, or you want to get popcorn. Something's not keeping you hooked into the movie. Good editing helps keep you on track, either into the story or the characters (or both). With The Warriors we had a strong story setup (everyone's after them; it takes a while for them to wise up); they get separated and face different dangers; reunite, etc. We needed to stick to the story and keep it moving. Anyway, my point is, editing isn't just what's "on the cutting room floor." Spread the word, boppers.
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quick note. question was, "was stuff on the cutting room floor?"
Okay, first an editor puts together the movie. French for editing is "montage," which means building. So before you get to edit "out" any material, first you have to put it all together to make it sing. That's the first part of the editor's art, maybe the hardest, because the initial putting together of scenes is done alone. No two editors will come up with the same exact cut. Part two of editing is finding the throughline. (Here, for the 1st time, material gets dropped. Not to the editing room floor but into "lifts," maybe to be put back into the movie later). Think of all the flicks where you're confused, or you want to get popcorn. Something's not keeping you hooked into the movie. Good editing helps keep you on track, either into the story or the characters (or both). With The Warriors we had a strong story setup (everyone's after them; it takes a while for them to wise up); they get separated and face different dangers; reunite, etc. We needed to stick to the story and keep it moving. Anyway, my point is, editing isn't just what's "on the cutting room floor." Spread the word, boppers.
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Were you ever on set or just in the cutting room?
Since they shot nights I got to the set quite a lot. Most memorable: Riverside Park where they were shooting the fight with the Baseball Furies. When I saw that I knew the movie was in overdrive. In response to another question, though, I don't think any of us thought the movie would be a phenomenon. It died at the BO after Paramount pulled it. There was no video for a long time. The tv version was lame (no fights, all the dropped daylight explanatory footage resurrected). So we all had had fun, and that was that.
Question about music. I'd used all kinds of temp stuff featuring (then) contemporary groups like Earth Wind and Fire. But for the DJ's first disc, I'd played the original "Nowhere to Hide" by Martha and the Vandellas. I was disappointed that they didn't get the rights to that version, as she would have been playing an oldie that everyone knew, not an unknown cover.

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wared wrote:Were you ever on set or just in the cutting room?
Since they shot nights I got to the set quite a lot. Most memorable: Riverside Park where they were shooting the fight with the Baseball Furies. When I saw that I knew the movie was in overdrive. In response to another question, though, I don't think any of us thought the movie would be a phenomenon. It died at the BO after Paramount pulled it. There was no video for a long time. The tv version was lame (no fights, all the dropped daylight explanatory footage resurrected). So we all had had fun, and that was that.
Question about music. I'd used all kinds of temp stuff featuring (then) contemporary groups like Earth Wind and Fire. But for the DJ's first disc, I'd played the original "Nowhere to Hide" by Martha and the Vandellas. I was disappointed that they didn't get the rights to that version, as she would have been playing an oldie that everyone knew, not an unknown cover.
Regarding the Furies fight scene, do you recall the deleted footage? There is a scene in the theatrical trailer where, as Swan runs up to the rest of the Furies, one of them turns around and spins a bat out from behind his back, kung fu style. I always wondered in that scene if Snow had a bigger part in the fight and if the actual fight was longer in your earlier cuts.
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I guess this has to be asked, what is your favourite scene from the movie and was it the one you had most fun editing?
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Wow this is an honour having you here, i hope you stay for a looon time
but may i ask these two little questions 8)


Is there any footage of Something happening to ajax after he gets arrested!?

Any more footage of cleon???




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ok guys I hate to rain on everyone's parade, but how do we know if this guy is who he says he is? you know the real deal? but don't get me wrong sir no disrespect after years of meeting "celebrities" on the net I'm just a bit skeptical I think is the word
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you ask "of course there's stuff that got cut, and probably a million feet of film that went by the wayside"

Lost forever, I assume. Even Walter Hill didn't add any new footage from the old negative of Warriors, just artwork. The workprint and negative were put in a vault somewhere in 1980. Paramount, then owned by Gulf&Western, later by other conglomerates, would have been loath to carry the expense of storing forever the outtakes of thousands of films, so figure all the stuff not used is gone. If it exists, where? Maybe in 50 years someone will stumble on a vault of decaying film, pick up a box labeled "Warriors," and consign the whole thing to oblivion. Kinda like the sled at the end of "Citizen Kane."

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You ask, "Is there any footage of Something happening to ajax after he gets arrested!? Any more footage of cleon???"

No, Ajax is busted in the park and that's it for him. Cleon gets it at the rally and that's all for him. Really, what you saw in the movie was all there was, except for the daylight material which, as I said before, didn't belong and was rightfully edited out.

As to the skeptic who questions my credentials, hey, doubt all you want.

My favorite scene(s), etc.: the rally (or whatever you call it) in Brooklyn, definitely the fight with the Furies ("turn you into a lollipop"), "Warriors, come out to play," the concept of a gang on rollerskates in Union Square station, the Riffs and the DJ in the way they were filmed, the prom couple, James Remar as Ajax -- he's just great, the look of the Turnbull ACs, the whole look and feel of the movie, which was both exciting and a hoot at the same time.

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you asked,"Regarding the Furies fight scene, do you recall the deleted footage? There is a scene in the theatrical trailer where, as Swan runs up to the rest of the Furies, one of them turns around and spins a bat out from behind his back, kung fu style. I always wondered in that scene if Snow had a bigger part in the fight and if the actual fight was longer in your earlier cuts."

Yes, my cut of the fight was longer. The trailer people had my version to use when they cut their trailer, that's why it made its way into it (as happens with lots of movies). Then Billy Weber recut them (under Walter's direction) and they were shortened and simplified.

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Great thread! The more info the better.

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