Real Or Fiction?

The King Of Pop · Post by **The King Of Pop** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:21 pm

Howdy folks,

I know that this is going to seem like a stupid question. I would like to know if the Baseball Furies were a real New York based gang? I have read some of the gangs in The Warriors were real gangs. Were The Furies one of them? If so, do they still exist? Please respond with ansewers. Happy trails.

The King of Pop

Love me! LOVE DOPEFISH! · Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:54 pm

Well, yes and no. They were real, but they've since disbanded. In the 1970s, the Furies were actually a gang to be reckoned with. Rumor says it was started by a man named "Cobb", a very tall and very hotheaded man, about 20 something, straight outta riverside. Now, down in Riverside, baseball was big. Real big. Minor teams competed, and it got fierce. Real fierce. Gangs within the baseball scene there, it was really wild. Anyways, the Furies proved biggest. However, they didn't last too long in the gang scene, they could play and they could fight, but they couldn't hold up with the biggest gangs out there. They lost hold on Riverside about '77, after a two-year reign. However, due to the mysterious aura surrounding them in urban legend, tales surfaced and soon they went from a facepainted baseball jersey-wearing gang, to fully facepainted guys in full uniform who never spoke a word while they kicked arse. Hence their incarnation in the WArriors.

The Rogue · Post by **The Rogue** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:47 am

well first off king its not my job to say this but dont tell us ur drunk, there happens to be kids on the site, and second the warriors was a movie based off the gang scene in the york during the 70s. i dont wanna sound mean or anything but put the bottle down and use ur head

Tantive7 · Post by **Tantive7** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:25 am

And yet it's amazing that you can type right at this minute??:roll:

BTW A.K.A the killer household appliance · Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:24 am

Dopefish wrote:Well, yes and no. They were real, but they've since disbanded. In the 1970s, the Furies were actually a gang to be reckoned with. Rumor says it was started by a man named "Cobb", a very tall and very hotheaded man, about 20 something, straight outta riverside. Now, down in Riverside, baseball was big. Real big. Minor teams competed, and it got fierce. Real fierce. Gangs within the baseball scene there, it was really wild. Anyways, the Furies proved biggest. However, they didn't last too long in the gang scene, they could play and they could fight, but they couldn't hold up with the biggest gangs out there. They lost hold on Riverside about '77, after a two-year reign. However, due to the mysterious aura surrounding them in urban legend, tales surfaced and soon they went from a facepainted baseball jersey-wearing gang, to fully facepainted guys in full uniform who never spoke a word while they kicked arse. Hence their incarnation in the WArriors.

WOW i never knew that! how do you know this? man oh man that is kool! this info is gonna go in my 70s new york gang knowledge, thanks dope

da-warrior · Post by **da-warrior** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:28 am

i wouldnt laugh at anyone holding a bat but do u think they would have been targeted for the makeup

Jacobus · Post by **Jacobus** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:33 pm

I'm 99.9% certain that I read somewhere that the director made up the Baseball Furies... The article read along the lines of "...the Furies where created out of the directors passion for baseball and his love of the rock band Kiss...". And not that I dont believe you Dopefish, but I'm really confused now

The Rogue · Post by **The Rogue** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:02 pm

ya i read that too in a walter hill article. there was a list of all the gangs and charachters and how he came up with them, and it said that for the furies

Jacobus · Post by **Jacobus** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:03 pm

I'm glad someone else has read it! I thought I was going crazy

Love me! LOVE DOPEFISH! · Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:04 pm

Yeah, he added the "mime" bit, the facepaint was already part of urban mythology. Nobody ever talked about how they sounded, but I doubt they were completely calm and silent. There just happened to be a part of urban myths he could apply his love of baseball to, and, exaggerating their facepaint, his love of KISS.

Jacobus · Post by **Jacobus** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:06 pm

Everyones a winner!

Love me! LOVE DOPEFISH! · Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:09 pm

Was it really KISS? I dunno, I know he wanted something to do with baseball. I think the extreme use of facepaint was already part of their legend (though the real ones supposedly didn't use it like that)

StevenFallonNYC · Post by **StevenFallonNYC** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:39 pm

I never heard/read that Walter Hill had a love for KISS (doesn't mean that's not the case, just that I never saw anything like that) and in the new DVD featurettes, the woman who designed the costumes sounded like she is the one who put the KISS influence on the Furies.

Unless Walter Hill instructed her to do so, and she didn't mention that?

The Rogue · Post by **The Rogue** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:47 pm

well i think it was influenced by a 70s new york rock n roll band who wore makeup. so either it was KISS or THE NEW YORK DOLLS the band who influenced kiss. and they didnt wear full face pait but rather lipstick and maskera(dunno how to write that)