No Concern About Fox?

Wonder Wheel · Post by **Wonder Wheel** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:17 am

At the 96th street station after the Lizzies incident-you see Cochise,Rembrandt and Vermin waiting at the platform-then Snow and Cowboy show-Rembrandt asks where's everybody else and Snow tells them about Ajax and not knowing about Swan.

NO ONE asks about Fox-ok Swan did to Mercy but he hasn't seen any of em since so why did none of them think to ask about Fox?

BTW A.K.A the killer household appliance · Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:38 am

he is not mentioned because walter hill was angry because the actor (thomas g waites) had left the film.

Wonder Wheel · Post by **Wonder Wheel** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:20 pm

yeah I understand that but taking the film as they're all brothers and in it together-you think 1 of them woulda asked-irrespective of arguments with the actor involved.

LATEM · Post by **LATEM** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:37 pm

I sincerely hope one day Waites will share his thoughts with all of us.

Ranchgal · Post by **Ranchgal** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:12 am

I got the feeling that once Rembrant had asked about "everybody"
they all figured if anyone knew anything specific--they would have volunteered it, so there wasn't any real need to name names with the question, just the answer--they answered with what ever information they had about who ever they knew. Snow didnt know about anyone else, so there was no need to mention names, till someone actually knew something.

Hippy · Post by **Hippy** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:17 am

Wonder Wheel wrote:At the 96th street station after the Lizzies incident-you see Cochise,Rembrandt and Vermin waiting at the platform-then Snow and Cowboy show-Rembrandt asks where's everybody else and Snow tells them about Ajax and not knowing about Swan.

NO ONE asks about Fox-ok Swan did to Mercy but he hasn't seen any of em since so why did none of them think to ask about Fox?

Well thats how the gang life is man. Your Either saved and cared for or you just dead and gone.

its harsh but then again so is the world.

emissary · Post by **emissary** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:39 pm

I just saw this thread. OK Snow mentions Ajax, and Vermin comments about him with fondness, "I'll bet he went out swinging", because although Ajax was gruff, he was a loyal, tough friend who would die for his friends. Swan, while dry, shows a willingness to do whatever it takes for the Warriors. Even cowboy yells "What about Vermin and Cochise?" right before he reaches the first step heading out of the station to meet the Furies.(just discovered that)

its_all_our_turf · Post by **its_all_our_turf** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:20 am

Interesting points. They do get over the disappearance of Fox pretty easily. I'll have to investigate this during my weekly viewing. Was there no other opportunity to mention the Fox? We never see them discussing who it was who actually shot Cyrus, but it can be assumed that sometime during the subway ride, off camera, Fox tells them all what he saw. So was there a similar opportunity for them to discuss Fox that we don't see?

The Warriors indeed had more pressing issues at hand. There would be plenty of time to mourn their fallen comrades once they got back to C.I.

Post by **Lion** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:30 am

I thought about this too. Gosh I can't blieve Walter had so much "hate" towards Fox that he went to that extreme.

adam88 · Post by **adam88** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:09 pm

Well, actually Ranchgal, makes a good point. I am sure they all did worry about the Fox, but being that no one knew anything for sure about him, there was no reason to speak on the subject, until they knew for sure. In fact they probably wanted to avoid the worst case scenario for fox, they didn't want to worry themselves even more.

Danzel · Post by **Danzel** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:47 am

I rekon it would have been the same with the situation with Ajax. The only difference was that Cowboy and Vermin new what happened. In foxs case they all knew that the plan was to meet at Union Station for the last train change to get back home, they all just accepted that something had happened, as with Cleon as well.

Swan 1979 · Post by **Swan 1979** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:17 am

Well also its kind of like a acceptance you know he either died or was busted there was nothing The Warriors could do.

yids-warrior · Post by **yids-warrior** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:40 pm

emissary wrote: I just saw this thread. OK Snow mentions Ajax, and Vermin comments about him with fondness, "I'll bet he went out swinging", because although Ajax was gruff, he was a loyal, tough friend who would die for his friends. Swan, while dry, shows a willingness to do whatever it takes for the Warriors. Even cowboy yells "What about Vermin and Cochise?" right before he reaches the first step heading out of the station to meet the Furies.(just discovered that)

i have never heard that line from cowboy before,will have to have a little listen see if i can hear it!

the wigan warrior · Post by **the wigan warrior** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:18 pm

Lions wrote: I thought about this too. Gosh I can't blieve Walter had so much "hate" towards Fox that he went to that extreme.

Yeah I agree quite childish of Walter Hill I think.

WildBoy · Post by **WildBoy** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:35 pm

Well all the blame can't go to Hill on this one - on the DVD he admits that he always felt badly about what happened, and you can go and interpret this as nothing more than a passing remark.

But for those of you who heard the Tom G. Waites interview a few months back on that Internet radio show, he was asked what happened with his character on The Warriors, and he himself admitted that he was young, foolish and he didn't want to listen to the film directors and it was his mistake.

At least he showed up to lend his vocals for the fantastic Warriors game.

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